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clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 09:06 AM
I've had about enough of some of my coworkers' stupidity and attitudes.
FRDnemesis
10-26-2010, 09:11 AM
I've had about enough of some of my coworkers' stupidity and attitudes.
Any aviation or instructor experience? Mind going to the UAE for a few months if you do have aforementioned experience?
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 09:16 AM
I've been in an airplane before. Does that count as aviation experience? :D
What kind of instructor experience?
No issues with spending a few months overseas, at all-as long as the pay is right.
chrisheltra
10-26-2010, 09:20 AM
If you can operate a set of these I have a job for you.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/media/images/products/58030_BLK.jpg
chrisheltra
10-26-2010, 09:20 AM
Damn that pic is a lot bigger than what google images showed. lol
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 09:42 AM
Gee, thanks, Chris.
BigdaddyDupree
10-26-2010, 09:44 AM
walmart in moncks corner needs a new greeter, theirs died.
Pesce Nero
10-26-2010, 10:02 AM
Do you own a Class A truck and have 2 years over the road experience with a clean MVR?
Matts94Z28
10-26-2010, 10:09 AM
Interested in driving for Hendrick?
Matts94Z28
10-26-2010, 10:10 AM
Parts driver... not race car driver. lol The benefits are great.
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Only if the pay is at least 45k per year, Matt
Matts94Z28
10-26-2010, 10:12 AM
They pay can be good if you are a people person. Salary + Commission.
FRDnemesis
10-26-2010, 10:57 AM
I've been in an airplane before. Does that count as aviation experience? :D
What kind of instructor experience?
No issues with spending a few months overseas, at all-as long as the pay is right.
There has to be aviation experience to accompany the instructor background. It was worth a shot.
jeff
04ctd
10-26-2010, 12:16 PM
are you a service writer, or a parts guy?
the MRAP places might hire a parts guy to control inventory.
i would try SAIC and SRC as a minimum.
places to apply for a job:
https://chart.donhr.navy.mil/
this is THE place to apply for Gov’t jobs in Charleston
http://athenaconsultinggroup.com/careers/
http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/
www.centurum.com
www.emainc.com
www.scires.com
www.stanleyassociates.com
job fair:
http://www.emainc.com/careers/recruitingevents.asp
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 12:29 PM
Thanks, Jeff.
John, I'll definately look into that stuff. Service writer, by the way.
98nbmz
10-26-2010, 01:10 PM
Interested in driving for Hendrick?
Parts driver... not race car driver. lol The benefits are great.
LOL! Jr isnt cutting it
04ctd
10-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Thanks, Jeff.
John, I'll definately look into that stuff. Service writer, by the way.
cool. i think that's still a position you can word-smith and wrangle a lot of ways in a resume.
here's a table I had to do up for a co-worker for pay.
(edit: i cant make the columns space out evenly)
2087 is a common number some companies use to figure a years pay, just multiply the hours times 2087:
hour week month year 2087
6 240 960 11520 12522
7 280 1120 13440 14609
8 320 1280 15360 16696
9 360 1440 17280 18783
10 400 1600 19200 20870
11 440 1760 21120 22957
12 480 1920 23040 25044
13 520 2080 24960 27131
14 560 2240 26880 29218
15 600 2400 28800 31305
16 640 2560 30720 33392
17 680 2720 32640 35479
18 720 2880 34560 37566
19 760 3040 36480 39653
20 800 3200 38400 41740
21 840 3360 40320 43827
22 880 3520 42240 45914
23 920 3680 44160 48001
24 960 3840 46080 50088
25 1000 4000 48000 52175
26 1040 4160 49920 54262
27 1080 4320 51840 56349
28 1120 4480 53760 58436
29 1160 4640 55680 60523
30 1200 4800 57600 62610
31 1240 4960 59520 64697
32 1280 5120 61440 66784
33 1320 5280 63360 68871
34 1360 5440 65280 70958
35 1400 5600 67200 73045
36 1440 5760 69120 75132
37 1480 5920 71040 77219
38 1520 6080 72960 79306
39 1560 6240 74880 81393
40 1600 6400 76800 83480
41 1640 6560 78720 85567
42 1680 6720 80640 87654
43 1720 6880 82560 89741
44 1760 7040 84480 91828
05Saleen
10-26-2010, 05:38 PM
https://chart.donhr.navy.mil/
John. This link is no longer good at the Naval Weapons Station. All their jobs are going to USAJobs. Thanks to the Air Force.
Matts94Z28
10-26-2010, 05:43 PM
Only if the pay is at least 45k per year, Matt
Now that I think about it... If you are making 45k+ as a service writer, then go to work happy and forget all the idiots!
LadyInRed
10-26-2010, 06:53 PM
They're hiring where I work, but I highly doubt you'll get $45k out of them to start.
I agree, put on the happy face and ignore the idiots :lol:
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 07:14 PM
Here's the problem:
I don't have any issue with the customers; it's just some of the people that I work with. Many of them just don't care, anymore. They don't care if a car gets fixed. They don't care if a customer is happy. They don't care about their work space being clean. It is all just adding up, and I choose not to deal with it anymore. I am a pretty easy going guy, but the attitude and lack of morale, around the shop, is starting to get to me. Sometimes I feel as if I am the only person in there who gives a damn. Everybody else, it seems, would rather just throw their hands in the air and say "screw it".
/whining
Time to get my resume updated and fine-tuned.
LXtasy
10-26-2010, 07:15 PM
Inform your uncle or shop foreman. If that doesn't work. Go even further up the food chain
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 07:18 PM
They see the problems as well. At least, Gary does. It doesn't seem to matter to them, as long as money i being made. Go up the chain? Same problem at the top, sir; or our sales issues would be fixed as well.
LXtasy
10-26-2010, 07:26 PM
Sounds to me like you have a bunch of check collectors and that is it. If you say management doesn't care than somehow you haven't mentioned the words "reputation, loss of money, customer satisfaction" all in the same sentence. Usually money is what gets them to listen. BUT, you never mention names. Just let them know that some workers are costing them money and customers will leave to go somewhere else because of mishaps. Now as far as the work stations not being cleaned. That is all in personal judgment. If it is company policy than fine. But honestly, don't check out the back of my truck because I usually have NO TIME to make it "clean". But I do know where everything is.
Either you haven't pushed the issue to higher ups enough for them to listen. (usually your work history and performance will determine if they even care) or b. you do need to bail. But honestly, good luck on the salary requirements. You may have to start down lower without experience and try to climb your way up.
I am thinking of a career change also and that is what I am finding out. Especially without college credentials. btw, that could help you too is to just suck it up, do some college stuff to help you make even more money. Always think in the back of your mind "what is the cap of this trade/position?"
MonteC
10-26-2010, 07:37 PM
Just start your own business. Youll be making way more than 50k a year.:rolleyes:
Good luck job hunting!
LXtasy
10-26-2010, 07:45 PM
Just start your own business. Youll be making way more than 50k a year.:rolleyes:
Good luck job hunting!
Work from home like Susie homemaker and get 3500 a week. I seen the pop up ad for it.
chrisheltra
10-26-2010, 07:46 PM
Im not gonna lie Ive noticed a lack of work quality there too. You know about my past issues so I wont rehash it.
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 08:01 PM
Im not gonna lie Ive noticed a lack of work quality there too. You know about my past issues so I wont rehash it.
That's actually part of it. We don't need to go through all of that here; but did you get that resolved?
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 08:02 PM
And, Hal, I think a heart to heart with the 'fearless leaders' is on order. I'll let you know how that goes. LOL
LXtasy
10-26-2010, 08:09 PM
And, Hal, I think a heart to heart with the 'fearless leaders' is on order. I'll let you know how that goes. LOL
It has worked for me in the past. And if it didn't. Let's just say I am not at that company anymore :bigthumb:
chrisheltra
10-26-2010, 08:20 PM
That's actually part of it. We don't need to go through all of that here; but did you get that resolved?
I found a half way fix for now.
1998ta__1991rs
10-26-2010, 08:42 PM
the thing about dealerships is theyre all the same, the grass is never greener on the other side. from what ive learned 45k a year is a little on the low side for an advisor. just apply at all the dealerships, someone will hire you with all the turnover there is
clubracergt1
10-26-2010, 09:34 PM
I am not 100% sure I still want to be an advisor, though. In nearly 13 years doing this, I have learned that everyone's grass is the same shade of green. Some stores just spread a different kind of 'fertilizer' on it to make it grow.
04ctd
10-26-2010, 10:55 PM
well, i don't think there is a GOOD place to work.
people are basically lazy, incompetent, and idiots.
out of ~50 people in a business, 70% don't CARE AT ALL.
in Churches, they call it the "80/20" rule: 20% of the people do 80% of the work,
and the other 80% whine about it.
when you see a TEAM that is highly successful, in the military, in a company, anywhere, they are usually a cluster of "go to guys" who teamed up, and kick butt.
but most teams, have more losers than go-getters, and end you up with a lot of little losing teams, and soon enough, the whole dealership falls apart.
my wife worked at dealerships for ~7 years all over the country, and they are all the same.
the sales people are druggies who work on commission and lie like dogs.
the mechanics could give a rat's butt.
and the management just plays "control" games with everyone.
she was only at one GOOD dealership in all those years, and the owner & GM were both hard over on "customer satisfaction" and they knew that started with sober salespeople
i used to have to go get the GM of her dealer to tell the service manager to tell a tech to pull codes on a GM Lemon I had....just useless bags of skin.
/back flip off soapbox....
anyways, i found you a job at SRC, i got a name to use as a reference, to put on your resume, should be a sure thing (yeah, right....).
will be right around your desired pay, if i am guessing right.
gearmesh, inc.
10-26-2010, 11:53 PM
Back when I did the dealership tour, I found out that things tend to go good for the techs and writers for about a year to a year and a half, then swing the other way for about the same amount of time. The down swings are usually started by management getting greedy at the top of a good cycle by scheming for more ways of getting even more money out of the customer. Guess who is caught in the middle between management and the customer? Yep, the service writers and the techs.
I worked for 5 Ford dealers in 5 years. Practically every year, the hourly labor $ rate that Ford corporate reimburses the dealers for warranty claims goes up (cost of living, inflation, etc.). One would think that if the labor rate went up 3%, that the techs would get an automatic 3% increase in pay to be in lockstep. Yeah, right! Just try getting your fair share of the pie. The only way to get a pay raise in the dealership business is to go to another dealer that has a desperate vacancy for your specialty. Chances are, the tech that left them didn't get his raise, either, so he left. The only way for the dealer to fill the vacancy is to finally get off some money, which will usually be what the departed tech was asking for in the first place. It is just one big vicious circle.
I always told management that's why my toolbox has wheels. If I wanted to stay in the dealership business for 30 years until retirement, all I would have to do is work at 30 dealers, which means 30 annual pay raises. Oh, and by the way, did you know that there are thousands of you SOBs to choose from across the country? Remember, I only have to work at 30 of them!
Another thing about dealership service departments, is that only about 10% of the techs actually competent enough to work a vehicle from bumper to bumper. These smart techs get all the hard jobs shuffled to them that eat up a lot of time. Meanwhile, the dumbass techs get all the quick, simple, easy work and so that hopefully, they won't mess anything up. The dumbasses typically get 3 to 4 dollars less per flat rate hour but yet turn about 30% mroe labor hours than the smart tech working on ass-kickers all week. Net result = the dumbass gets a bigger paycheck on payday. It's no wonder I don't do dealership work anymore.
04ctd
10-27-2010, 08:54 AM
, I found out that things tend to go good for the techs and writers for about a year to a year and a half, then swing the other way for about the same amount of time.
. The only way to get a pay raise in the dealership business is to go to another dealer that has a desperate vacancy for your specialty. Chances are, the tech that left them didn't get his raise, either, so he left. The only way for the dealer to fill the vacancy is to finally get off some money, which will usually be what the departed tech was asking for in the first place. It is just one big vicious circle.
Another thing about dealership service departments, is that only about 10% of the techs actually competent enough to work a vehicle from bumper to bumper.
well said. the military is like your first statement, good leadership/then bad/then good
contractors need to change jobs every so often too, to keep their pay competitive.
i always try to learn my service writers name & my mechanic,
and always talk to both of them when i drop my truck off, and pick it up.
it's amazing what a different story each one has about the same repair, just seeing it from a different perspective.
greengp
11-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Try SAIC they usually looking for people
cobraetti
11-01-2010, 07:06 PM
I did notice the new parts guy is kinda a tool:hide:
clubracergt1
11-02-2010, 06:15 AM
Andrew,
He is a former State Trooper. That should give you som einsight to his attitude. Actually, John is not a bad guy. He just has an unusual sense of humor.
Illusions
11-02-2010, 07:01 AM
:cheers I :Group Hug: my Job :bigthumb:
cobraetti
11-02-2010, 10:08 AM
I know he was just funny about giving up the company discount, should have shown the CERTIFICATE its my fault.
Illusions
11-02-2010, 12:31 PM
I know he was just funny about giving up the company discount, should have shown the CERTIFICATE its my fault.
Just the build number along with the guys names that signed the valve cover would do. :cheers There is no need to bring in the certificate. They can look that up with the previous info. you do not want to get the certificate dirty or wrinkled.;) :bigthumb:
cobraetti
11-02-2010, 03:17 PM
10-4 you are correct but you know I have it framed
CHEVYMAN434
11-02-2010, 08:45 PM
I have worked in dealerships as a parts man for 14 years and feel your pain.It doesn't matter where you go,the only thing that matters is the bottom line.Dont matter who gets screwed or is sent out with a unsafe vehicle,its all just money.And then you got new guys comin in willing to work for a portion of what a real parts man needs to live,so there is no fighting it.Just suck up the dumb asses or just stay home like me.:cheers..Oh and dont forget,sundays may be coming soon,so get ready for seven days a week with 5 days pay..lol
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