Twin Turbo Proline 460 ci 25.2 drag race Mustang

[chrisheltra]

Nice looking car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Twin-Turbo-Proline-460-ci-25-2-drag-race-Mustang_W0QQitemZ330397964533QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ced40d8f5

[91notch]

badass!

[jmd]

looks good. i am writing a check right now.

[BigdaddyDupree]

i already paypal'd him

[chrisheltra]

Too bad I picked it up last night. lol

[BigdaddyDupree]

that bitch took my money.

[WTFWSAT]

I have a set of euro tail lights that will make your car just as fast as that one is suppose to go. I had them in my car for a few passes but couldnt handle the power. First 20 bucks takes them! :bigthumb:

[chrisheltra]

I have a set of euro tail lights that will make your car just as fast as that one is suppose to go. I had them in my car for a few passes but couldnt handle the power. First 20 bucks takes them! :bigthumb:

What a ripoff I dont want any European stuff on my ride. lol

[WWhittle]

Nice car but the problem with it is that it's a ProMod and it will be slow as shit for a ProMod, especially if it runs what he is advertising- mid 6's at 220.

[chrisheltra]

Nice car but the problem with it is that it's a ProMod and it will be slow as shit for a ProMod, especially if it runs what he is advertising- mid 6's at 220.

I really don't know what the difference is between a promod and any other car "class". I'm not deep enough into racing to have ever looked into it. Can you explain some of these differences for me?

Thanks
:ty:

BTW I wouldnt call 6's @ 220 slow at all IMHO

[WWhittle]

I said slow for a promod!

The difference is about 6 or 7 tenths and about 30 mph.

A ProMod will run in the 3.60 to 3.70 range at 200+ in the 1/8th. That car wouldn't run a 3 nothing.

But it is definately a nice car. That smallblock is similar to mine, just not quite as late and great as mine.

[chrisheltra]

I said slow for a promod!

The difference is about 6 or 7 tenths and about 30 mph.

A ProMod will run in the 3.60 to 3.70 range at 200+ in the 1/8th. That car wouldn't run a 3 nothing.

But it is definately a nice car. That smallblock is similar to mine, just not quite as late and great as mine.

I still dont know the difference except for times.

[WWhittle]

I still dont know the difference except for times.

Chassis differences, tire size differences, weight differences, body differences.......

too many to type out!

[chrisheltra]

nevermind then guess Ill learn from elsewhere.

[WWhittle]

nevermind then guess Ill learn from elsewhere.


LOL-

so you are pissed off that i am not going to type out 30 pages of rules for you?

Sorry dude!

[chrisheltra]

Never said I was pissed just said Ill learn elsewhere.

Thanks

[WWhittle]

THIS WILL GET YOU STARTED!!





ADRL ProMod Rules:






REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS

BODY

BELLY PAN: Allowed. Pan must extend beyond the leading edge of the engine and any accessories. The front edge of the pan must have a 1 inch lip.

BODY: Funny car or one piece bodies not allowed even if equipped with doors. Maximum front end overhang of 45” as measured from centerline of front spindle. An ADRL approved extension may be used to reach 45” if the front end overhang of the body is less than 45”. All bodies must originate from a production vehicle. All new cars must be approved by the ADRL competition department prior to construction. Inside of front end and hood must be painted with ADRL approved fire retardant paint on any vehicle using any percentage of nitro methane for fuel.

DOORS: Required. Doors must be functional and able to be opened from both the inside and outside of the vehicle. Doors may be fabricated from carbon fiber, fiberglass or metal. A metal deflector between the fenders and the leading edge of the doors is required.

FIREWALL: Magnesium, aluminum or composite not allowed. All firewalls must be made of steel or titanium (.024 minimum thickness).

FLOORS: Replacing stock floors with .024" steel or .032" aluminum allowed (.032 on any vehicle using any percentage of nitro methane for fuel). Driver's side floor pan must be .024" steel (.032 on any vehicle using any percentage of nitromethane for fuel) and must be welded in place extending from firewall to back of driver's seat. Carbon fiber or composite materials may not be utilized in any portion of the flooring in the driver's compartment except for any panel located behind the driver including suspension covers and wheel tubs.

HOOD SCOOP: Allowed. One opening only.

TAIL LIGHT: Functional rear tail light is required.

WINDOWS AND WINDSHIELD: Required. May be replaced 1/8 inch think lexan, plexiglass or other shatterproof material. An opening with a 4" diameter minimum is required on side windows adjacent to the driver.



CHASSIS

BATTERY: Maximum of two batteries allowed. All batteries must be securely fastened. An external master electrical shut off clearly labeled “PUSH OFF” is required.

BRAKES: Four wheel brakes with dual master cylinder mounted above frame rails required.

CHASSIS: SFI 25.1 E or 25.2 certification required.

DRIVER LOCATION: Must be in stock location, on left side of vehicle.

GROUND CLEARANCE: Minimum of 3” required from whatever portion of the vehicles body or chassis that breaks staging beam to 12” behind front axle centerline. Minimum of 2” for remainder of vehicle.

SUSPENSION: Race car type suspension required. Solid suspension prohibited. Shock absorbers required for all four wheels.

TIRES: Automotive type tires designed specifically for racing required. Tires cannot be located outside of bodyline. Manufacturer, model and size information must be clearly designated.

WHEEL BASE: Minimum 100", Maximum 115". S-10, Ranger, Dakota Maximum 125". Maximum variation is 2” side to side.

WHEELIE BARS: Required, non metallic wheels required.

WHEELS: Wheels meeting SFI spec 15.1 mandatory. Maximum width 16”. Use of a liner mandatory on all non bead lock wheels.



DRIVELINE AND ENGINE

CLUTCH/FLYWHEEL: Flywheel and clutch meeting SFI 1.3, 1.4, or 1.5 certification required.

DRIVELINE: A full 360 degree drive shaft tube is required over yoke, extended a minimum of 9” from transmission tail shaft. Minimum thickness of tube housing is .050 cm. Two piece units accepted with a minimum of 6 3/8” grade 8 bolts. SFI 43.1 Driveshaft required.

ENGINE SETBACK: Maximum of 10% of total vehicle wheel base as measured from centerline of front spindle to center of front spark plug hole.

EXHAUST: Automotive type system designed specifically for racing required. Exhaust gasses must be directed out of the body towards the rear of vehicle and away from the driver and fuel system.

HARMONIC BALANCER: SFI 18.1 certification required.

FLYWHEEL SHIELD: SFI 6.3 certification required.

FUEL: Alcohol, gasoline, methanol and nitromethane allowed. Nitromethane is not allowed with screw-type supercharger. Maximum percentage of nitromethane allowed in centrifugal or roots-type supercharged engines is 50%. Maximum percentage of nitromethane allowed in injected fuel engines is also 50% (temporarily). Anyone planning on utilizing an injected fuel engine with any percentage of nitromethane must first be approved by the ADRL competition department. To apply call (636) 272-2375 and ask for Bubba Corzine.

INTAKE MANIFOLD: An ADRL approved burst panel is required on all vehicles.

NITROUS OXIDE: Allowed.

REAR END: Automotive type, Full-floater rear end required.

STARTER: Optional. No push starts allowed.

SUPERCHARGER AND OVERDRIVE: Use of any size centrifugal, roots-type or screw-type supercharger allowed. Maximum overdrive for a roots-type supercharger is 1.70 (70 percent over). Maximum overdrive for a PSI screw-type supercharger is 2.28 (128 percent over). Maximum overdrive for a Whipple screw-type supercharger is 1.60 (60 percent over). All screw-type superchargers must be certified to SFI Spec 34.1 and overdrive limit established to be eligible for ADRL competition. Any new screw-type supercharger must be approved for competition prior to competing at an ADRL event. All screw-type superchargers must display a current SFI Recertification tag.

TRANSMISSION: Any type allowed.

TURBOCHARGER: Allowed.



MISCELLANEOUS

CREDENTIALS: A valid ADRL membership and competition license is required. Valid IHRA and NHRA competition licenses may be transferred when presented with a current physical.

COMPUTER: Allowed.

DATA / ELECTRONICS ACQUISITION: Allowed.

STARTING LINE ENGINE CONTROL DEVICES: Allowed.

TOW VEHICLES: Allowed. A valid driver’s license is required to operate any type of tow vehicle. All passengers must be seated inside of vehicle with all doors closed. Riding in open hatchback, trunk or cargo area not allowed. ATV’s are allowed with a maximum of one passenger who must be seated at all times. Golf carts are allowed with a maximum of three passengers who must be seated at all times. Posted pit speeds must be obeyed at all times. If pit speed is not posted, maximum pit speed will be 10 mph.



SAFETY EQUIPMENT

DRIVER RESTRAINT SYSTEM: SFI 16.1 certification required. SFI 16.5 (7 point system) recommended, required in 2011.

ENGINE CONTAINMENT SYSTEM: ADRL approved lower engine containment system required. The system must include the oil pump and related components and be a minimum of 3” above ground.

FIRE SYSTEM: SFI 17.1 system required. System must contain a minimum of 20 lbs of Halon or equivalent. One nozzle required inside driver’s compartment must be directed at driver’s feet. Two or more nozzles must be directed at front of engine and fuel cell.

HEAD AND NECK RESTRAINT: SFI 38.1 required. An aluminum skid plate located above driver’s head is recommended.

HELMET: SN-2000 or newer of SFI 31.2 or 41.2 required. SA-2000, SA-2005 or 31.2A with a shield required when utilizing any percentage of nitromethane. Use of open face helmet prohibited. EjectHelmet Removal System (Part # SDR 890-01-30) recommended, required in 2011

MASTER ELECTRICAL CUTOFF: Required. Must be clearly labeled “PUSH OFF”.

PARACHUTES: Dual parachutes required. Separate shroud-line mounting points with 1/2” sleeved grade 8 bolts required.

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING:A driver's suit meeting SFI 3.2A/20, gloves meeting SFI 3.3/20, shoes meeting SFI 3.3/20 and a head sock meeting SFI 3.3 required. A head sock is not required when a helmet manufactured with a skirt meeting SFI 3.3 is used.

ROLL BAR PADDING: SFI 45.1 required.

SUPERCHARGER RESTRAINT: SFI 14.2 minimum required on all roots-type superchargers. SFI 14.21 required on all screw-type superchargers. You must utilize the entire assembly including bag, plate and straps.

TRANSMISSION: All transmissions must be covered by a one piece SFI 4.1 restraint.

UPHOLSTERY: If a metallic seat is used a flame retardant seat pad is required. Pour-in seat foamed with energy absorbing material recommend, required in 2011. Lateral supports recommend, required in 2011.

WINDOW NET: SFI 27.1 required.

[WWhittle]

AND SOME MORE!!



OUTLAW 10.5


ORSCA Outlaw 10.5 Rules



Designation
O/L or Outlaw followed by the number, numbers must be 4” high on each side windows, front window and back glass.

Body
Vehicle can be any factory produced coupe, sedan, sports car, truck or sedan delivery. Must retain complete stock roof, quarters, door jams, pillar post, cowl and firewall. All other body components may be composite or other light material. They must be in factory dimensions. Channeling, chopping, sectioning or any other alterations to alter length, width or height strictly prohibited.

Doors
Must be functional from inside and outside of vehicle. Exact duplicates in carbon fiber or fiberglass are allowed.

Firewall
Must be in OEM produced location. May be notched for bell housing, distributor, blower and exhaust. Smoothing of firewall allowed. Must consist of sheet metal (steel). Firewall may not be completely replaced with sheet metal. In cases of fiberglass or SMC firewall sheet metal must cover entire firewall.

Floor
Stock floor may be replaced with .024 steel or .032 aluminum. Driver side floor must be steel. It must extend from firewall to rear of driver’s seat and must be welded in place. No magnesium may be used in driver compartment.

Hood and Front End
One-piece liftoff type front end allowed. Hood must be separate from front fenders and bumper.

Headlights and Tail Lights
Must have functioning headlights and taillights. They must be in the factory location and must be stock in appearance. Tail light must function with brakes. Hide-away headlamp style vehicles must have some type of working headlights, at least behind headlight grill. In case of hidden headlights that completely fold away with no grills, fog lights may be used. (Tech decision will be final).

Lettering/Decals/Logos
Sponsorship decals are allowed on windows. One decal on each side of hood scoop is allowed. One decal on each side of wing spill plate is allowed. Front Bumper . One quarter panel logo is allowed on each side of car. The quarter panel logo must meet the ORSCA required stipulations regarding placement of such logos. One (1) official ORSCA decal required on each side window.

Spoilers
Limited to 20” from the body transition point to the trailing edge. Spill plate size limited to 8” maximum height and 36" in length. Spoiler must be a maximum of 4” wider than the each side of deck lid or hatch. (Allowance for wider quarter panel to be determined at tech decision).

Windshield/Windows
Lexan may be used in place of factory glass. Must be stock dimension and mount in stock location.

Body Length
Plus or minus 2” from factory dimension.


Front over hang rule


Limited to 42 inches from center line of front spindle to further point of front end

Any vehicle with over 42 inch from factory must retain exact factory overhang dimensions






Chassis
Back half chassis only. Chassis certification must comply with the race track and/or sanctioning bodies required guidelines in regards to speeds and ET's obtained. No full round tube chassis allowed. Back half section must not extend forward past rear most portion of the K-member or cross member. Stock frame rails from the firewall forward must be retained with a minimum of four (4) inches forward of the front engine mounting plate.

Driver location
Must be in stock location. Driver’s shoulder must not be rearward of forward most portion of b-pillar. (Exception for taller drivers, allowed by tech decision).

Front Suspension
Stock type and configuration front suspension required. All lower control arms must bolt to the K-member or cross member. No suspension component can mount to strut tube or lower mainframe rail. After market spindles and a-arms allowed. Modifying of shock/strut towers allowed for header and engine clearance only. Must retain at least 50% of original tower. Upper strut tube may be graphed in to strut/shock tower. Spring and or shock may be relocated (tech decision final).

Nostalgia rule applicable for 1980 and older vehicles

Option 1 OR 2 ONLY:

Option # 1: Factory frame rail must be retained. All other inter structure and uni-body support may be removed from the firewall forward. OEM suspension configuration required.

Option # 2: After market bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered
stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacture with designated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer


Rear Suspension
Any rear suspension system allowed. A minimum of two (2) hydraulic-shock absorber. No rigid mounted rear axels allowed.

Ground Clearance
Three inch (3”) minimum for entire length of vehicle and all components (headers, oil pan, chassis). ECT.

Wheelbase
Maximum of one inch (1”) plus or minus, from factory dimension. This will be to method orsca will use to determine wheel base dimensions



Engine
Any engine size allowed. Limited to single automotive type engine.

No C drive screw blowers allowed

The Max overdrive on any blower combination max 110 percent


Turbo combination limited to 94 mm only no inserts allowed


Fuel

No fuel containing Nitro allowed


No fuel my be altered from original manufacture blend.


Single Power adder only. No Dual power adders allowed


Exhaust
Must have functional mufflers mounted in the exhaust flow (cone inserts not allowed) except turbo entries. Exhaust must exit at least 12” behind rear of front axle centerline.

Electronics
All electronic devises allowed except optical censoring devise that work off of tree.

Transmission
Any type transmission allowed. Must have neutral safety switch.

Wheels and Tires
Must be automotive type designed for racing. Maximum of up to 10.5 with sidewall designation maximum


33x10.5w slick or 13.5 sidewall Designation DOT tire allowed. Maximum tread width of 12 inches roll out 105 inches


Safety
Must have onboard fire suppression system with secondary activation switch located at rear of vehicle. One nozzle directed toward driver, two nozzles in engine compartment directed on engine. Must Have Drivers suit. Must have gloves, collar, shoes and helmet. Certifications must comply with track's and or sanctioning bodies requirements as per speeds and ET'S obtained and type fuel being used. Driver restraint must be equipped with seat belts that meet race track's and/or sanctioning bodies requirements with two year maximum from date of manufacture. Master disconnect switch is required. Must completely shut off all electrical functions. Must be located in plain view at rear of vehicle. Must be marked “off” or “push off”. (Safety Recommendation only) Parachute: Two required with separate mounting points. Minimum shank bolt, ½”. Must have sleeve between tether and bolt in. Roll cage padding is mandatory

Interior
Must have stock dash or stock appearing for vehicle. Composite or other lightweight material allowed. Must have door panels.

Weights

4 cylinder weight to be determined
Small Block Nitrous, V6 any power and number power adders: below 500 cubic inches 2550 lbs. above 500 cubic inches 2750 lbs


Big Block & Turbo, Supercharger: 3050 lbs.


Small Block single Turbo , super charger , below 500 cubic inches 2900 lbs


Small block twin turbo below 500 cubic inches 2950 lbs


Big block Nitrous 2850 lbs


Screw type Blower 3050 lbs


Roots type Blower 3000 lbs


ORSCA reserves the right to change weight at any point it deems necessary for parity in its fields during the 2010 season

[WWhittle]

AND LIMITED STREET, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO TRUE TEN FIVE








Class Description
ORSCA Outlaw Limited Street is a heads-up class designed for street legal cars from a major manufacturer. Cars will qualify on a .400 Pro-Tree and eliminations will run on a Pro ladder.

Body
Stock body lines must be retained. MUST BE STOCK APPEARING. Chopping, channeling, sectioning, or any other alterations to contour, lengthen, shorten, widen, stretch, or modify any area strictly prohibited. Fiberglass body panels hood, bumpers, Doors deck lid and inner fenders are allowed ONLY. All Fiber Glass parts must retain original Factory Body Lines and dimension and Factory appearance Forward facing hood scoops allowed but must not protrude above halfway position on windshield. Lexan front windshields door glass and rear windshields will be allowed but must retain stock appearance (NO VISIBLE FASTENERS OF ANY KIND). Factory spoilers allowed. Aftermarket wings will be allowed with a maximum length of 17 inches from mounting point. Factory Grill and headlights required. Inner fenders are required but may be notched for header or roll bar clearance. Stock factory floor pans required to reach the rear most point of door jam.

Interior
Full interior required. This includes stock appearing dash and dash pad, carpet, , door panels and both front seats in stock location. Rear seat is optional only if area under it is carpeted. Dash pad may be notched for roll bar clearance.

Front Chassis/Suspension
Stock front frame rails and suspension required. Aftermarket control arms and bushings allowed as long as they bolt in stock locations. Rack and Pinion steering allowed. Aftermarket coil over shocks allowed and aftermarket direct replacement struts are allowed, but must bolt in stock location with the exception of aftermarket K-member. In the case of K-member cars, the upper control arm must bolt in stock location, but the K-member and lower control arms must still be removable.


After market bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered
stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacture with desiginated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer
. Cross member may be notched for oil pan clearance.

Wheelbase
Factory dimension.

This will be the method ORSCA will use to determin factory deminsion.

We will measure from lower corner of door jamb to center of rear axel. From center of rear axel to center of front spindle





Ride Height


4" Mimimum in front of front tires


Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed. Wheelie bars are not allowed Stock firewall must be retained and in stock location. Notching for clearance of bell housing, distributor, supercharger or intercooler allowed.

Firewall
Smoothing of firewall for appearance is allowed. No part of engine may touch stock position firewall.

Engine
Any engine combination and power adders allowed. Engine must be in stock location. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. Turbo exhaust should be directed toward rear of car and must exit a minimum of 12 inches behind the front axle centerline. All Nitrous bottles to be saftey vented pop off to outside vehicle
No c drive screw blowers allowed

Single power adder combination ONLY. No Dual power adders allowed

The max over drive on any blower combination 100 percent
Turbo combination limited to 91mm turbo No Reducers Allowed

Fuel
No fuel containing nitro allowed
No fuel may be altered from original manufacture blend




Transmission
Any OEM type automatic or manual transmissions allowed. Aftermarket heavy-duty cases allowed. . Air shifters and trans-brakes are allowed.
Electrical
Stock headlights and tail lights are required and must be functional. Bracket racing aids, such as optical sensors, delay boxes and electrical or pneumatic throttle stops are not allowed. Progressive nitrous controllers and data recorders allowed.

Tires
Any slick up to a 30 x 10.5" sidewall designation allowed. "W" tires are not allowed. DOT tires up to a 13.50R-15 allowed. Hoosier tire, part number 18192D05 will not be allowed. Wheel width may not exceed 13 inches.

Lettering/Decals
Sponsorship and decals limited to windows rear quarter panels hood scoop front bumper sides of wing only

ALL WEIGHTS ARE WITH CAR AND DRIVER

2,650 lbs. small block with NO2 and V6 with any power adder standard bore space

small block single pro charger standard bore space 3050

small block single turbo 3050 LBS
small block twin turbo 3,100 lbs 91mm turbo limit

Big block Nos 706 cubic inch and under 2950 LBS

Big block Nos over 706 Ci 3,050 lbs.

Big block single turbo 3,200 lbs
Big block twin turbo 3,200 lbs 91 mm turbo max



Super charged or blown applications 3,200 lbs. Max overdrive 100 percent No C drive allowed

[WWhittle]

Now, that is just a small example. If you read through it all, you will see that the main differences are going to be chassis, body, weight and power adders.

I didn't know that you cared any further than that, but if you do I love to talk about it. I will never be able to afford to race a Promod but I am a big fan.

[WWhittle]

Oops, and tire size. That's pretty important.

[Harry]

Gotta love copy and paste.

[jmd]

Now, that is just a small example. If you read through it all, you will see that the main differences are going to be chassis, body, weight and power adders.

I didn't know that you cared any further than that, but if you do I love to talk about it. I will never be able to afford to race a Promod but I am a big fan.

lol, so he did get you to type all that info. :bigthumb: